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W.D. James's avatar

Hi LR,

Thanks for the comment. I suspect we may agree on more than we disagree on (maybe). The situation you describe, of communities pulling themselves together to achieve collective ends, I would describe as ‘natural,’ but not what Hobbes means by ‘state of nature.’ Hobbes means unassocisted individuals who then form a modern state. I think Aristotle, whom I mention and who Hobbes has in his sights, was more accurate. For him, we are naturally ‘political animals’ and naturally form increasingly complex associations from the family to villages to polises (smallish self-governing societies). Each level is aimed at allowing us to obtain a higher aim. Thus far I think we mostly agree. Most people extend that to the modern state. Following Hobbes though, I agree the modern state is not a natural association. Something like a republic might fit. Something like a federation of communities might fit. The modern state as described by Hobbes, for me, is problematic and not in line with our nature.

I would encourage you to read my series (part 1 is out, others to follow pretty much weekly) on egalitarian anti-modernism. I hope to see comments from you on that. Will be fun and probably helpful.

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Domenic C. Scarcella's avatar

Here after getting the link at your "Our Schmittian Moment' article.

Coercive civil authority is inherently, intrinsically evil. Always. And it exists to perpetuate itself, not to protect natural human rights. I wonder how much sooner I would've figured out these truths if not for the propaganda of government schools and government media.

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