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Michael Martin's avatar

Honored by the mention!

I think it's a problem of scale, for one. As history has more than proved, once a system gets too big the distinctions between capitalism and socialism disappear and the idealistic impulses that initiated them are perverted. That's probably why I prefer some form of distributism: it has "not getting too big" built into it. But we don't have that in the US and nobody else does either.

It was easy for Pete Seeger or even Dorothy Day to play communist. In a more or less democratic society, no one will stop them, if that's what they want to promote. But neither of them moved to a communist/socialist country--and for a reason.

So, since we live in a less than perfect society in a less than perfect world, I would choose to live in a capitalist society over a socialist (and I'm not talking about the ideal, but how they actually work in the world). As I mentioned before, you don't see the Amish--the most Christian anarchist players out there--fleeing to socialist or communist countries. And for a reason. They even voted for Trump rather than live out the demonic socialist nightmare the Democrats were and are promoting--and the Amish NEVER vote.

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"If AI integrated robotics actually displace the large majority of human workers (as Elon Musk and an array of other tech moguls say it will) we will be in a position we have never been in before:"

My bet is that any advancements in robotics and AI will just be machines, that do what machines have always done, act as a force multiplier for human labor, ultimately, in terms of production anyway, making human labor more valuable not less.

I think the tech moguls promote the idea of robotics and AI replacing human labor because it's what they want to be the case, it's what they want their investors to think is the case, and it's what they want the public to think.

That last one might be nefarious. If they can get the public to think that this is the case they could use it as cover for devaluing labor, and cutting wages, through whatever means, maybe the usual offshoring, or importing cheap labor, or maybe they have something new up their sleeve, but whatever the case this supposed replacing of human labor by robotics and AI, would make a good cover story.

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